RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 6, 2014 at 11:42 pm
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2014 at 11:47 pm by Chas.)
(October 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Restan Wrote: Perhaps you can tell us how the universe came to be, if not created by some event or force, and how it has lasted over 14 billion years if it is not an ordered entity? if the universe is fine tuned for something, what force fine tuned it? If it is random, how can you know what will happen?
First, you don't know that it was created.
Second, you have created a false dichotomy. There is no reason to believe it is either fine-tuned or random.
Quote:(October 6, 2014 at 6:03 pm)Alex K Wrote: Hello! Let's for a moment forget that I don't buy your premise that there is a problem.
I completely fail to see how your intelligent designer hypothesis solves any of your alleged problems. It's way more complicated than a universe with just a handful of rules.
You don't understand that a very few simple rules can create order from chaos. You are making an argument from ignorance.
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You cannot understand why the presence of of intelligent design would be the answer to all these observations of natural phenomena? Well then, I guess that concludes our conversation.
Wow, a dismissive argument from ignorance.
You cannot provide us one shred of evidence as to where this intelligence came from or resides.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.