(October 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Lek Wrote: Yeah. I saw that video before. The difference is that God didn't just create a bad situation, put us there, then decide to save us from it. He created a good situation, put us there, then we blew it for ourselves. He then offered his son to fulfill the justice that we were to receive and he's offering the good situation back to us. Although we can have it back there are still consequences that we must suffer, like pain, suffering, and death. Is it ok for God to make us die from cancer, get smashed by a bus, or some other gory death? I know you think he should be a nice guy and end all this suffering stuff right now. God created it all and he holds the power over life and death. He can make the rules and the punishment for breaking them. I don't know his mind. I'm just happy he gave me a second chance and I'm taking it. God's not forcing anybody.
See, this is what I mean. Retrofitting bad things into good things, rather than examining them honestly.
Also, shockingly, you're only addressing a small fraction of the point: the question you were asked was why does god instigate and participate in atrocities, and yet for some reason you opted to discuss human problems instead, despite the fact that this is clearly not what's on the table.
Do you deny that, within the context of the bible, god flooded the world and killed everyone on it? Do you deny the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? Are you familiar with the civilizations destroyed at god's command? Are not those actions directly caused by god, and if so, aren't those very obviously the actual things you were being asked about?

You do this a lot, Lek, and I have to wonder why: why do you avoid questions with the same old transparent dodges, like that "I know you think god should X and Y" shit, that I've called you on before? Why is honestly approaching the actual question you've been asked so scary?

"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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