Horrible things in the bible

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Nothing scary at all. I did address these questions. If man had not sinned, none of these atrocities would have happened. We would be as happy as Adam and Eve were originally. We could say that God makes everything happen, but if we have a free will, then we make some things happen. I never denied the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. If I accept the bible then I accept these events. What I will say is that I don't know the mind of God. I can tell you they wouldn't haven't happened if we had not sinned, but I don't know what what was happening in God's mind at the time. People don't get too excited if God makes someone die after suffering for years with a disease, or makes someone get run over by a bus. But if a bunch of evil people get killed by fire and brimstone in Sodom, then God is causing an atrocity.

Yeah, the Argument from Undefined Possible Reasons doesn't fly. If you wouldn't let a serial killer off the hook based on "I don't know the mind of serial killers, maybe he had good reasons," then I won't accept you letting god off on the same excuse.

I also have problems with this idea that execution for sin- for anything is at all justifiable. You're not going to convince me that the death penalty is morally correct to begin with, but if god is going to punish all the sinners with hell anyway, why did he need to heap additional punishment onto these specific groups of people now?

Once again, this is just you spinning bad things as good things, because you've presupposed god as being good, rather than honestly assessing the situation.