(October 9, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Lek Wrote: When we sin we disobey just as Adam and Eve did. I told you before that I'm not convinced that the bible teaches eternal torment. If it is true, I'll accept it, but it seems a bit much.
So is it possible for a person not to sin? If so, I guess christianity is irrelevant. If not, then I guess Adam and Eve were absolutely bound to sin from the outset and the free will excuse, plus their and our responsibility for sin, go completely out the window.
And if Adam and Eve could not sin, then I guess the actual content of the sin is completely meaningless next to the label, sin, and hence there's no moral component to sin at all.
Quote:I don't accept their beliefs. I must choose one over the others. I choose to accept christianity. I've never done any scientific experiments to prove my beliefs are true, so I guess it doesn't fly with you.
First of all, don't strawman me, with that science stuff.

Second of all, don't say you believe in christianity because of the testimony involved if testimony isn't what is actually convincing you. Just be honest and say what really makes you believe.
Just say "I believe because of special pleading."
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