(October 9, 2014 at 8:07 pm)Lek Wrote: If man had not sinned, none of these atrocities would have happened.Man cannot compel god to act, therefore you cannot blame humankind for the acts that god committed. That is akin to saying that leaving your door unlocked makes you solely to blame for the robbery and assault committed by someone else when he entered your home. In any other aspect of your life, you would not even consider such a ridiculous option as credible. God gets a free pass even though it makes no sense at all to portray him in this manner, as someone unable to avoid horrific actions because his kids misbehaved.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould