Abortion not allowed

[Mister Agenda]

Let me put it this way, you want to choice for everyone right. Well so do I encluding the foetus.

The fetus is not capable of making choices. That's one of the things that make it not fully human.

---

That is why I have already said it is not to do wih my religious beliefs. I honestly do think it is murder.

What everyone is wondering, in the absence of your religious beliefs being the reason, is why?

For example, I would think killing YOU is murder because: it's legally defined as murder and I think the definition is correct because you are a human being with all the rights, privileges, and necessary attributes thereof.

---

Great to see that you think that it is acceptable. It is really messed up when someone supports racism.

Is the reason you think it's great because it gives you that tingly 'I'm superior' feeling inside?

Acknowledging that it wasn't murder under Nazi law doesn't mean she considers it acceptable.

---

@C4RM5...

Give it up pal. Attempting to instruct those bent on destruction and selfishness in the ways of compassion and peace is akin to banging your head against a wall. Let them kill their children if that is what they choose, at least that leaves a few less to carry on the tradition of ignorance.

So YOU thought she was saying the Nazis killing Jews not being murder means she thinks it is acceptable too? Have you been this dense all along and I only just noticed, or is it a new development.

Nothing succeeds in reducing the number of abortions than comprehensive sexual education combined with ready access to birth control; which most of the same people who are pro-life are also against. Pro-choice atheists have a lower-rate of abortion than pro-lifers because on average, we don't get pregnant when we don't want to as much.

And while I'm expounding, most of the women who get abortions in the USA already have children (about 60%). Over 80% are over 20. However, they also tend to be under the poverty line (over 40% under, 69% under or near) as unwanted pregancies have declined in wealthier demographics who can afford a variety of birth control methods; they've risen among poor women of color thanks to the efforts of pro-lifers opposing organizations like Planned Parenthood who are the main source of birth control supplies among poor women.

'Pro-lifers' are not actually against abortion, or they'd support approaches that actually reduce abortion. They've got their panties in a twist about toleration of abortion. There are plenty of places where abortion is illegal where it actually occurs at higher rates than it does in the USA, but the majority of USA pro-life advocates would consider more actual abortions a small price to pay for the satisfaction of being able to say they're illegal.