(October 14, 2014 at 5:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(October 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: The fact that the majority of Muslims don't follow it has nothing to do with what it actually says.
But it does speak to the shallow nature of anti-Muslim bigotry. It's okay to cherry-pick the Bible, but Muslims cannot do so, by Western lights: they must either embrace every repulsive sura, or be false Muslims.
Cafeteria Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Southern Baptists ... Christian sects and outlooks are not held to the same standard.
I wonder why.
None of the people mentioned exhibit anti-Muslim bigotry.
They are talking about Islam and the Qur'an, not Muslims.
Harris makes the point, that Muslims that are fundamentalists and Jihadists are getting their ideas from their holy text. The fact that the vast majority of Muslims cheery pick is great.
Are these or are these not bad ideas:
Killing infidels.
Stoning women that are not virgins on their wedding night.
Stoning a women if she did not scream loud enough when she was raped.
Woman's testimony is not acceptable in court unless there are 2 or more.
If you agree that these are bad ideas, you are in agreement with Harris.
Of course Christians that espouse the bad ideas in the Bible are held to the same standards.
Harris has spoken out many times on the anti-condom policy that Catholics spread in Africa. He's spoken about the anti-gay policy spread by an American Evangelical Christian that has lead to government policy to kill or imprison gays in Africa.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.