RE: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,and made my life enjoyable.
October 20, 2014 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2014 at 12:34 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
(October 15, 2014 at 12:42 pm)Lek Wrote: I agree that there is much beauty in the world and we can all enjoy that, but I think you have your rose-colored glasses on. It's much easier for someone that has freedom and is clothed and fed to see the world as a beautiful place. How about those who are living under oppression, living in the streets, scratching around for their next meal?And funny how jesus could feed 5000 with a little bread and fish.
Quote:I'm sure that they don't think that the world is a wonderful place. How about those suffering from chronic conditions and diseasesYou mean the ones your god created?
Quote: or those rotting in prisons because of their political or religious beliefs?Odd you should mention that, given that your religion not only condemns people for critical thinking but sentences them to hell. Furthermore history and the present day news tells us that whenever you christers have the ability, you like to throw gays and non belivers in prison too.
Quote:I whole heartedly agree, but i wonder why does your god not lead by example? And no rising from the dead and a few cheap tricks don't count.
We need to step out of our beautiful worlds and lend a hand a hand to those whose worlds are not pretty, and help feed and clothe them.
Quote: Maybe we could also help them by handing out the lyrics to John Lennon singing "Imagine" or, better yet, we can tell them about the truth of the gospel and they can have hope for eternity.Except the gospel isn't true and even if it is your just selling them on the idea of a celestial north korea. Hell if their in north korea or some other regimes your basically taking advantage of their lack of critical thinking skills and authority ruling mindset and endangering their lives so you can "spread the good news" like a good little christer. Except in the context of a omni-all god like the christian reaching out to me the idea of using humans to spread the word is fucking retarded. But I digress.
Here is a idea though, instead of selling on a religion that is inherently divisive and oft manipulated by power seekers, Why don't we find some common ground amongst many creeds? Well lets see, most of us want a brighter future, and most what the best for their children. Hey, instead of selling our favorite religion why don't we get everyone working for the idea of a better tomorrow?
(October 19, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Lek Wrote:(October 18, 2014 at 1:36 pm)whateverist Wrote: But if there was nothing in human experience to answer to 'spiritual' I don't think it would be so popular. I think Tonus is right that it is emotional or perhaps a feeling/intuitive matter. Certainly it has not got much to do with reason.
I can agree that what the word signifies has no attraction for me either without insisting dogmatically that it can have no value for anyone as an objective fact. I wonder if you have the same reaction to the word "mystery"?
Because you don't posses spirituality, you've decided there's no such thing. Billions of people are spiritual, but to you they're either lying or misinterpreting the experience. It goes like this: "Yes. I am spiritual." "No, your not spiritual, liar." "Yes, I experience it daily." "No. Sorry, but what you're experiencing is not spirituality." "But I have a relationship with God." "No you don't. There is no God, so you can't have a relationship with someone who doesn't exist."
No actually, I usually get them to ask god something "What is the most effective way to cure cancer." After all if he is real and loves us, then surely he rather see us cure cancer then die a slow and agonizing death.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.