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How to argue against this claim
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RE: How to argue against this claim
October 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm (This post was last modified: October 22, 2014 at 4:48 pm by Jenny A.)
(October 22, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Lek Wrote:
(October 22, 2014 at 1:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: Why is god usually credited with all the good stuff but the bad stuff is either the work of the devil or a result of man's "fall"?

That's the basic message of the bible. God created everything good, but man sinned and caused things to be bad, so we all live with the consequences of sin. Because God loved us, he decided to give us a second chance. Since we now had a sinful nature we were unable to fulfill that requirement for justice, so he sacrificed himself, in the form of his son to do that. Now we all have an eternity to look forward to on the new earth (call it heaven if you like) which will be a restoration of what he gave us in the first place, but it will be eternal. It's like "paradise lost, paradise restored."

Man caused: famine; volcanoes, earthquakes, disease, hunger, cancer, carnivorous animals. . . Really? Maybe if I eat an apple and spit it back out?
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How to argue against this claim - by sipurtov - October 18, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Endo - October 18, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by vorlon13 - October 18, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by JesusHChrist - October 18, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Jenny A - October 18, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by polar bear - October 18, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Simon Moon - October 18, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by TreeSapNest - October 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Anomalocaris - October 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 6:03 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Simon Moon - October 20, 2014 at 9:12 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by LastPoet - October 18, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brakeman - October 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Jenny A - October 18, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 18, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by LastPoet - October 18, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by AceBoogie - October 18, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Anomalocaris - October 18, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by AceBoogie - October 18, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 18, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 18, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Aoi Magi - October 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 19, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 19, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 19, 2014 at 11:40 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by vorlon13 - October 19, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Esquilax - October 20, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by RobbyPants - October 21, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by JesusHChrist - October 21, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Brian37 - October 22, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by AceBoogie - October 22, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 22, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by AceBoogie - October 22, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Tonus - October 23, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Jenny A - October 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 22, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 22, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Jenny A - October 22, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by The Valkyrie - October 22, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 10:12 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Chas - October 22, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Lek - October 22, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Chas - October 22, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by FatAndFaithless - October 22, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: How to argue against this claim - by Tonus - October 22, 2014 at 4:16 pm

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