RE: Rape victim sentenced to death in Iran.
October 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2014 at 4:03 pm by Brian37.)
(October 24, 2014 at 9:51 pm)Alice Wrote:(October 24, 2014 at 8:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok then. A bit of irony. Today on twitter I had a Muslim pestering me about how we were being so mean to Islam, sent him this link.
Not sure how this constitutes irony...Regardless of what islam has or has not done: the attitude of the west towards it remains what it is, and it is negative.
America is largely responsible for the Iranian Revolution, and now it leads the chant against Iran's theocracyWe haven't done politically well oversees... maybe this 'petition' stops someone being executed, maybe it doesn't... either way, she's overall irrelevant: this will continue until Iran is once again a 'secular' state.
Here we go again. Um depends on who you are talking about. Christian bigots, who also hate the existence of atheists? Or liberals and liberal atheists who refuse to default to PC as a tactic because we want the East to have it's own Age of Reason and it's own Jefferson and Paine
Islam is still far to widely in that region stuck in it's own dark age thinking. Malala was shot for wanting an education. Ayaan Hirsi Ali grew up in Islam would agree that political correctness is not the way to help the oppressed.
Now please do not argue something stupid about us being meanies because we don't give religion a pedestal. No sane person reading this is suggesting, or should suggest government force of the end to any religion.
Some well intended atheists and theist on the left still have yet to learn the difference between the human right to claim what you want, and the separate ability to demonstrate the credibility of a claim.
I do not find claims that women are property credible. I do not find claims of calls to violence as a form of activism credible. Those people who claim those things have a source they justify those claims with. It was no different when Christians burned witches and justified slavery and bigotry. And only an idiot would claim it is not the case even today that far too many Christians still today justify denying gays rights because of what they read in the bible.
NO that is not a call to end religion, it is a call to stop pretending religion is not used as a weapon when it is painfully obvious it is.
Instead of getting upset with people wanting to stop religious bullying and religious bigotry, stop them from using religion or their holy books as excuses to justify what they do.
Get angry at the right people, don't get angry at the people getting angry at the right people.