(October 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Losty Wrote:(October 25, 2014 at 4:05 pm)Chuck Wrote: Since Iran is under no obligation to make any trial public, why are we harping on the superficial appearance of this particular case?
No. I just said we don't know, and this is why. I don't care about the appearance of the case. I still think execution is always wrong though.
(October 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy fucking crap. You are stuck in the moment just like white bigots and even whites who are not bigots who cannot understand the outrage over Micheal Brown.
CONDITIONS AND CLIMATE are a problem there and there is no way under those conditions in that climate to claim she got a fair trial.
The law is on the books that the state can execute you for your own rape. That is not a neutral law, that is a sexist law based on the Koran. As such there is no way one can see the state or the court as objective or fair to women. Anymore than white Christians under segregation could be viewed as fair when those laws existed.
I don't see where the outrage is coming from. All I have said is that we don't know the details of the case because it appears that she hasn't been given a fair trial. I am almost agreeing with you with less irrational anger towards people who are just discussing. Like I said, take a fucking chill pill.
Here calm tone now. Let me repeat.
What makes it wrong is the fact that the law is on the books at all. That law is sexist and the court and state who enforce that law cannot be trusted to give that woman a fair trial because the law exists at all.
Blacks old enough to remember segregation can tell you that. You cannot trust a system that is bias prior to you ending up in that court.
A laypesons example would be having two teams in an NFL game where one team has as many players on the field as they want, and the REFFs wearing that team's jersey, while the other team is limited to one player and the REFFS don't give equal treatment to that other team. If you were on that team limited to one player vs unlimited players, would you even want to step on that field prior to the game? Would you trust the reffs?
Now, that is how women in Iran are treated. They are the weaker team, and the REFFS are the Imams who set up the playing field, set up the rules and do not favor women's rights anywhere close to what the west does.
It is not about her or one case. Iran's justice system is sexist and cannot be trusted anymore than blacks trusted laws under segregation.
