David Cameron copies Ben Affleck's approach to Islamic violence

[Ben Davis]

yeah, are you supposed to be countering me with this. How does this help you again.

...because it demonstrates that any generalisation regarding muslim support for extremists is wrong. A generalisation must necessarily be representative of the overwhelming majority to have any validity at all and the majority of british muslims do not support extremism. That fact should be recognised when dealing with extremism in the UK. That doesn't mean we ignore the influence from countries where the majority of muslims DO support extremism but it does mean that careful consideration of national demographics must be included in the analysis.

And are you saying 20-30% in support of extremism isn't a large proportion,

I agree, it is a large proportion. I referred to it as "worrying" (and that may be an understatement) but a large proportion still doesn't serve a generalisation of british muslims. Balance is needed to make sure that our views are truly representative of the situation.

I wasn't sure on the figures but I would even say those are conservative.

That's why I included the sources used by ReligionOfPeace & Daniel Pipes as they would likely support an anti-islamic position and be anything other than conservative. As it happens, they also used some of the stats from the NOP and ICM polls so there's a set of shared references.

Tell me again, what of what I said was gonads, because you haven't specified. You just went on a rant.

Your statements regarding the behaviour of british muslims (e.g. FGM, terrorism, being removed from their social responsibilities) included no balance. You didn't point out that the majority of british muslims oppose these ideas and that the largest muslim bodies in the UK have publically condemned extremism and terrorist actions. I was addressing that lack of balance.

And your second one from Channel 4, a source I wouldn't trust as you'll see why, suggests it around 30% in favour of Sharia. Whilst trying to butter people up to the idea, arguing Sharia isn't all that bad............I'm not joking, have you read these links ?

Of course I read the links. I don't necessarily agree with all the C4 analysis, it just gave me an easy reference point for the stats. It's the data that's my focus, not the window-dressing.

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I've said before that even if only 10% of Muslims were extremists, that's still too many.

I agree.