Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?

[pocaracas]

As far as I'm concerned, I'm indifferent to whether it's good or bad to rape a sheep.
Some people may be grossed by it, but then again, many are grossed by looking at certain members of the human population... certain obese members....
Is something gross immoral?

So if I understand you correctly, your opinion is that raping sheep is neither good nor bad. Am I correct?

And how about human to human... is it ALWAYS wrong or sometimes Good? And could you provide an example of the "good" rape, if you are of the opinion that it is sometimes good?

Thank you

You're welcome...
Now I think it is the time to define things...
Things like "good" and "bad".

To me, under the context of human morality, "good" can be defined as that which benefits the species, as a whole.
And "bad" is the opposite, that which depreciates the species.

In the present-day context of 7 billion people, abortion is non-consequential or can even be a good thing.
Rape is seen as bad, because we care for the individual's psychological well-being and raping does tend to wreck it. We want the human population to be as well as possible, so we wouldn't want such harm to come to any of the members.

In the context of a worldwide population of a few hundreds, abortion is seen as bad, while rape can be an opportunity to have one more child in the belly on an uncooperative woman, which can be good, as she's likely to become a cooperative mother.

Also, a few hundreds of years ago, morality would apply only to the in-group, the family group, the tribe... the country. Anyone out of this group would be the others and would not be seen as equal human beings. You still see this in the caste system of India.
The other group, the bad group, is to treated like animals, kill those who threaten the in-group (the males), take the women to become future mothers of the in-group (even if uncooperative, and indoctrinate the children into either becoming members of the in-group, or slaves.

Which brings us to the topic of slavery... is it good or bad?
Once more, nowadays, where we are concerned with the well-being of everyone, it's wrong to have slaves.
But in the olden times, it was granted and often-times the slaves were content to be at the service of their masters.

Moving on, why would the existence of universally accepted rules of human behavior toward each other be a hint to a universal law-giver?
Couldn't evolution have shaped those?
Like we see in lions... regardless of the pack, the behavior always follows certain patterns... why would we posit those behavioral patterns on some external law-giver?