(November 1, 2014 at 8:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: Many Christians and theists will disagree but ill say it anyways.
you need Atheists and agnostics and people in general who have no faith or belief in a god. This is saying a lot, could you imagine how the modern world would look like just imagine that there was no such thing as atheists and agnostics the US during ww2 since you claimed its an christian country would have helped Hitler. Why we didn't do it because we are secular we know that what hitler is doing is wrong but biblically its alright and justified.
Uhm..... I think he's saying that the Nazi's were atheists or that America would have sided with the Nazi's if we were an atheist country.
Fact 1) The Nazi military belt buckles specifically said "God with us" on them. You can fuckin' google it if you don't believe me (although, since it's German it will say "Gott Min Uns," but just punch that into google translate and guess what it tells you). Hitler himself still hasn't been excommunicated by the catholic church, not to mention most racists and anti-semites in the US claim to be Christians. It's not at all true to claim that someone can not believe they have Christ as their personal lord and savior if they're racist. Now, if you want to claim they weren't "real" Christians, that's fine, I can do a no true scottsman argument as well.
Fact 2) No, the US isn't a Christian nation. Specifically, our government isn't and shouldn't be Christian. Shouldn't be atheist, really, either. I see our government as being largely apathetic about religion, letting people believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't interfere with the rest of society.
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama
"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama