(November 15, 2014 at 2:47 pm)Heywood Wrote: We want to be safe so we lock up murderers.We're not going to be discussing torture any longer?
Quote: We need to be taken care of in our old age so we educate our children to maximize their productivity and hope they are productive enough to take care of us.Yeah, but I thought we were having a discussion about torture......
Quote:I think you and I agree that sometime torture is just a practical necessity.....or at least could be.Can't say that we do, actually. I see neither the practicality nor the necessity of torture. What gave you the impression that I did?
Quote:Where we differ is my willingness to call any mental or physical anguish imposed by one person on another for the purpose of punishment or information extraction torture while you seem unwilling to do so.Right, because I'm not interested in weaseling around the subject. It's grave enough to take seriously.
Quote:I gave you a couple of examples of torture. You don't accept them as legitimate examples of torture because to you....they aren't severe.That's not why I rejected them. But it doesn't really matter at this point..you're already constructing an alternative narrative here so I'm guessing we're nearing the end?
Quote:Why does mental or physical anguish have to be severe to be torture?I don't know, you tell me pigeon?
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