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what would make you change your beliefs?
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RE: what would make you change your beliefs?
Thank you for your response.

I can accept that everything is to be labelled God but I don't understand where you get the "everything is conscious" part from. Other than the "everything is conscious" part - it is really just labelling is it not?

You say that when atheists ask for evidence they are putting it into a box. But, no, not really. Because evidence=reason to believe. So asking for evidence is asking for a reason to believe. It's fine to put feelings into the equation if you genuinely believe they add to the truth of the matter of your beliefs... but if you don't believe they do - then you're essentially happily believing in something that you don't honestly think is true which kind of confuses me.

I never asked if you followed Hitler... I made the point that I assume that you obviously wouldn't and so there therefore are parts of 'God' you wouldn't follow... and yet, yes, Hitler would still be a part as everything is God and everything that has existed is God, according to you.

I accept that you understand that I don't (at least fully) understand your position... but I hope you do also accept that I am genuinely trying to.

For you it seems to me that God=the universe/multiverse... the cosmos... existence/essence itself etc.... I just don't understand where the "all is conscious" part comes from. If everything is one and the same then the conciousness would have to be the same too... so there would only be one consciousness.... so that's like... solipsism?

If there is not one consciousness but many.... then where does the belief that everything is concious come from? So it seems to me that either you have an unexplained belief in everything being consciousness... or you are in some way solipsist or something to that effect. It almost sounds like some sort of bizzare polysolipsism where there is only one consciousness but it is spread over many different dimensions LOL... and if so - why? How?

EvF
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RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by chasm - July 4, 2010 at 12:05 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by chasm - July 4, 2010 at 12:12 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by chasm - July 10, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2010 at 9:29 am
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by Godhead - July 11, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 11, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 11, 2010 at 7:32 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by Godhead - July 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2010 at 4:44 pm
RE: what would make you change your beliefs? - by annatar - July 18, 2010 at 11:32 pm

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