EvF -
Ok, you believe or assume (it has to be one or the other, unless you claim to know) that you are only capable of perceiving the physical. If you're limited to perceiving what's physical, then you can't be in a position to say for sure what else there is. After all, if you don't have the means to perceive it, you don't know, you ca't tell. But what you can say is that you're limited to perceiving the physical. We agree that "limited" means that there's a point at which your ability to perceive stops. Your ability. That's about as subjective as it gets, isn't it? If "evidence" means something that you can perceive, then there's no evidence for you of anything else. But again, it comes down to you. If "evidence" means a reason to believe, then, surely, with limited perceptions, you can only judge your reasons by what is perceivable to you, with your limited perceptions. It's like being in a box, and thinking that the box is all there is, or that anything outside the box is probably like all the things in it. You're using your own limitations to make judgments about that which is not in the jurisdiction of your perceptions. But you're not supposed to be able to do that, you're limited. The fairest starting point is "I don't know, at all, no assumptions either way, none". But that's just a starting point. If you want to go on from there, the options are : Everything outside the box is like the things in the box, which makes no sense, as the very nature of outside"ness" (of the box) would make that unlikely, or, put another way, the fact that you can't perceive beyond the physical must mean there's a reason, it must mean that it's nature is different. Otherwise you'd be able to perceive it, it would have qualities which would ake it perceiveable to you. The other option is : Acknowledge that anything which exists and which is unperceiveable by your physical senses, has a symptom, which is : your inability to perceive it by physical means. It's beyond your senses. Physical senses perceive physical things, that's what they meant to do. If anything exists that you can't perceive, it must have a nature which makes it beyond your physical senses.
Ok, you believe or assume (it has to be one or the other, unless you claim to know) that you are only capable of perceiving the physical. If you're limited to perceiving what's physical, then you can't be in a position to say for sure what else there is. After all, if you don't have the means to perceive it, you don't know, you ca't tell. But what you can say is that you're limited to perceiving the physical. We agree that "limited" means that there's a point at which your ability to perceive stops. Your ability. That's about as subjective as it gets, isn't it? If "evidence" means something that you can perceive, then there's no evidence for you of anything else. But again, it comes down to you. If "evidence" means a reason to believe, then, surely, with limited perceptions, you can only judge your reasons by what is perceivable to you, with your limited perceptions. It's like being in a box, and thinking that the box is all there is, or that anything outside the box is probably like all the things in it. You're using your own limitations to make judgments about that which is not in the jurisdiction of your perceptions. But you're not supposed to be able to do that, you're limited. The fairest starting point is "I don't know, at all, no assumptions either way, none". But that's just a starting point. If you want to go on from there, the options are : Everything outside the box is like the things in the box, which makes no sense, as the very nature of outside"ness" (of the box) would make that unlikely, or, put another way, the fact that you can't perceive beyond the physical must mean there's a reason, it must mean that it's nature is different. Otherwise you'd be able to perceive it, it would have qualities which would ake it perceiveable to you. The other option is : Acknowledge that anything which exists and which is unperceiveable by your physical senses, has a symptom, which is : your inability to perceive it by physical means. It's beyond your senses. Physical senses perceive physical things, that's what they meant to do. If anything exists that you can't perceive, it must have a nature which makes it beyond your physical senses.
