(November 21, 2014 at 11:43 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 21, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: One thing you also seemed to have overlooked. On top of those accounts not being by eye witnesses
Ok, so where you an eye witness account to the Presidency of Martin Van Buren? The answer is no. So how do you know that he was ever the President? How can you be sure of anything in history if you were never a direct eyewitness to anything??
(November 21, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: , none of them mention any of the miracles or the resurrection.
Tacitus mentioned a mischievous superstition which arose after Jesus' death. That is the Resurrection, the greatest miracle of them all.
(November 21, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: So while there remains the slim possibility that JC might have been a real person, without the miracles and the resurrection any claims to him being the son of god are out the window. Along with your religions claim to possession of the "TRUTH".
The possibility is high, actually. If Jesus was never a real person, then how the hell could Christianity ever get off the ground from the belief of a man that never even existed? And why would non-Christian sources put a man that never existed in the same context of men that actually existed, like Roman politicians and emperors? Makes no sense.
To your first, we have eye witness accounts of Van Buren, but none of Jesus, so you fail there.
For your second one, Tacticus mentions a michevious superstition therefore the resurrection?!?! Fuck, you really are grasping at straws now laddie.
And lastly, this only attests to people's gullibility, nothing else.
Now if Christianity had appeared simultaneously at different places around the world you would have a case.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.