(December 2, 2014 at 1:46 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I thought God's laws were supposed to be objective and universal, anyway?I can recall that the JWs felt that the laws and regulations given the nation of Israel set them apart from the other nations and cultures, and I think I've seen that argument made on this forum once or twice as well. But I think that the way the old testament treats women doesn't point to a kind or caring god. This would be the same god who regularly lays savage ass-whippings on nations and individuals (and once almost the entire world), but suddenly he feels he must be sensitive to the cultural mores of a relatively small community that has pledged to serve him?
"We'll do anything you want, god, on penalty of suffering and death! But do you mind if we keep our rape culture? I mean, it's not like we have video games or even a soccer pitch around here!"
"Meh... sounds reasonable to me. Let me know when you grow out of it, though. It makes me just a tiny bit uncomfortable to allow it."
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-Stephen Jay Gould
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