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the case against the case against god
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RE: the case against the case against god
(December 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Atheists from my experience don't take into consideration that the proof maybe inside of them and all they have to do is reflect over it. They've already decided it must be by empirical evidence or proven by a logical argument.

Of course it must be those things. Subjective feelings are not evidence, and there's a simple way to demonstrate that: you feel that your god exists, and someone of another religion feels that their god is real. This is true of multiple religions, and at least a couple hundred followers. But they're all different gods, mostly mutually exclusive. Someone is wrong there. It's possible everyone is wrong there. But what's truly evident from that example is that "feeling" god inside you is not an accurate depiction of reality necessarily, because at least a few of the people reporting precisely the same effect you are, are by definition entirely wrong. So feelings produce, at best, both correct and incorrect results: how do you tell which is right?

Oh, and by the way: if I feel in my heart, as truly as you believe in your god, that rocks can talk, does that mean that rocks can talk? Or does that mean my feelings are factually wrong?

Hmm, I guess feelings aren't reliable evidence then. Thinking
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the case against the case against god - by chris(tnt)rhol - December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 4, 2014 at 5:28 am
Re: the case against the case against god - by TubbyTubby - December 4, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cyberman - December 4, 2014 at 5:55 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 4, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Minimalist - December 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by SteelCurtain - December 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 5, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 6, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 7, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 8, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 8, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Grandizer - December 10, 2014 at 2:56 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 10, 2014 at 3:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 5, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 5, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 6, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 6, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 8, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 5, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 6, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by comet - December 7, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 8, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 2:42 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 3:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Jenny A - December 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 9, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by LivingNumbers - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

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