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The problem with prayer
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RE: The problem with prayer
To steal an example.

Praying to help find your carkeys often works.

You can find your keys, you get stressed, you start praying, you relax, your mind clears, and you remember where your keys are.

Praying when you are stuck in a well or mine helps.

You pray, you relax, your oxygen use slows down, you live longer for the rescue workers to help out.

These kinds of prayer have beneficial properties, but based on a naturalistic explanation.

Here is what I have a problem with:

Children in countries like Sierra Leone where the vast majority is Muslim or Christian, infant mortality rates are soaring. And I am betting all my money that the mothers of these children pray till their knees are bloody with the most sincere and honoust prayer in the world.

If prayer really helped in these cases, in the midst of all these third world countries where infant mortality are high, some pockets of better success rates should exist where a certain denomination or certain religion rules and medicine is just as scarce as in the other parts of the third world countries. I have never heard of one such instance.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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Messages In This Thread
The problem with prayer - by Darwinian - January 5, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Kyuuketsuki - January 5, 2009 at 7:46 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by puglover - January 5, 2009 at 8:05 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Dotard - January 5, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by puglover - January 5, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by leo-rcc - January 5, 2009 at 8:40 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 10:01 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 5, 2009 at 10:29 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 10:36 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 5, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Kyuuketsuki - January 5, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by chatpilot - January 5, 2009 at 10:50 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 11:19 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 5, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 1:30 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by bozo - January 5, 2009 at 3:39 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Kyuuketsuki - January 5, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 5, 2009 at 4:51 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Kyuuketsuki - January 5, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by leo-rcc - January 5, 2009 at 4:04 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 6, 2009 at 5:46 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by leo-rcc - January 6, 2009 at 7:53 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by chatpilot - January 6, 2009 at 3:37 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 6, 2009 at 9:48 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 6, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 6, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 6, 2009 at 12:48 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 6, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 6, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by Eilonnwy - January 6, 2009 at 3:15 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by bozo - January 6, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by CoxRox - January 6, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: The problem with prayer - by chatpilot - January 6, 2009 at 10:47 pm

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