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the case against the case against god
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RE: the case against the case against god
(December 7, 2014 at 1:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Even if there isn't a consensus on how to approach spirituality, it doesn't follow there is no way to know something via spiritual experience.

No one has ever been able to give a coherent definition for the term 'spiritual' or 'spirituality'. Are you up to the task?

How would you go about testing whether some knowledge gained through a 'spiritual' experience is true? How could you tell you are not just fooling yourself? How would you know that you are not just misinterpreting some natural brain state?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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the case against the case against god - by chris(tnt)rhol - December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 4, 2014 at 5:28 am
Re: the case against the case against god - by TubbyTubby - December 4, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cyberman - December 4, 2014 at 5:55 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 4, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Minimalist - December 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by SteelCurtain - December 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 5, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 6, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 7, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 8, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 8, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Grandizer - December 10, 2014 at 2:56 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 10, 2014 at 3:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 5, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 5, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 6, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 6, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 8, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 5, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 6, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by comet - December 7, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 8, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 2:42 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 3:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Jenny A - December 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 9, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by LivingNumbers - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

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