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the case against the case against god
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RE: the case against the case against god
(December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am)chris(tnt)rhol Wrote: Has anyone on this forum given any thought as to the kind of evidence which would convince you that god exists?

Sure, but I doubt that you'll like my answer.

I presume you're using 'god' in the sense of an ultimately powerful personal being. One who can do pretty much what it likes in any circumstance.

Using that (pretty vague) definition, there is no way that I, so small and meek, could defend my mind against being conned by that being. There could be no way for me to know that I had encountered the real deal rather than an extremely powerful non-god who had clouded my perceptions. The only way that I could, with confidence, tell that I was in the presence of a supreme being would be if I was given powers on parity with that of the being so I could know that I wasn't being hoodwinked. In the absence of this personal upgrade, no evidence will suffice.

So unless you're a god yourself, you can't tell if you're actually in the presence of one. I sort of doubt that the situation will arise.

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So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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the case against the case against god - by chris(tnt)rhol - December 4, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 4, 2014 at 5:28 am
Re: the case against the case against god - by TubbyTubby - December 4, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cyberman - December 4, 2014 at 5:55 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 4, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Minimalist - December 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by SteelCurtain - December 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by ManMachine - December 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 5, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Esquilax - December 6, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 7, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 8, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by TreeSapNest - December 8, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Grandizer - December 10, 2014 at 2:56 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 10, 2014 at 3:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 5, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 5, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 5, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by abaris - December 6, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 6, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Tonus - December 8, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 5, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by MysticKnight - December 5, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by downbeatplumb - December 6, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 6, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Simon Moon - December 6, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Whateverist - December 6, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 6, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by comet - December 7, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 8, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 2:42 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by JuliaL - December 8, 2014 at 3:06 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Jenny A - December 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Losty - December 9, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by The Valkyrie - December 9, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 9, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by LivingNumbers - December 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Alex K - December 10, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by Thumpalumpacus - December 10, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: the case against the case against god - by robvalue - December 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: the case against the case against god - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

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