(December 8, 2014 at 6:40 am)bennyboy Wrote:(December 8, 2014 at 5:51 am)robvalue Wrote: Sure, I guess I didn't explain it too well, I'm actually saying agnostic and gnostic are rather useless. Everyone is really an agnostic by the stricter definitions, but mostly gnostic by sensible definitions. Anyone claiming to be a gnostic under a strict definition is generally being pig headed.I agree about "agnostic atheism" being redundant and mostly pointless-- to me, it's kind of a philosophical cop-out. However, I'm a declared agnostic. To me, not knowing is a meaningful position, and doesn't imply any default position. I do not, for example, like people telling me that since I'm agnostic, I have no active belief in God, and am therefore an agnostic atheist by default.
So instead of agnostic atheist, just atheist is fine. So my point is that adding agnostic is redundant if you're talking to sensible people with reasonable definitions. I don't think it adds anything that not being crazy wouldn't show.
A term is as pointless as you make it. To me atheism does not exist. It's a worthless term. Everyone knows deep down that we are all ONE. Search inside yourself for the answers. If you say we are not ONE, you are fooling yourself. The term atheism is the most non-existent pointless term ever devised by man. You fear the idea of God so you try to kill it with your own meaning. Atheists are FUCKED in the head, you belong in insane asylums. LITERALLY.