Rape in the Bible

[FatAndFaithless]

Are...you serious?

Yes I...am.

The "consesual" thing to which was being referred is fuckin sodomy, sex between a man and a man, that drew the destructive ire of God, not the gang of rapists at Lot's door. Man on man sex gets you fireballs, offering your daughter up for a gang of rapists? Meh...

We're not told what drew the destructive ire of God. We're shown a bunch of guys trying to rape visitors. They were free to have consensual sex with each other, but they wanted to rape visitors. There were presumably cities in the workd in which there was homosexual activity, but which didn't get destroyed. So, your inference that the judgment was merely about consensual homosexual activity isn't well supported.

And I don't care what sort of relativistic cultural justification you want to bring in.

Why not? Do you believe that your moral judgments are true and correct, and other people's aren't?

Well, we are told that homosexual sex is an abomination deserving of death, and sodomy (hence the name of the term...) was certainly going on there. It wasn't "merely" about gay sex, since God has a whole host of meaningless shit he gets hissy about, but if we're talking about sex and rape here, then yes, the gay sex must've been a part of the judgement by defintion, if it's actually an abomination.


As for your moral question. No, I don't know with epistemological certainty that my moral ideas are objectively correct, nor do you. However, we do try to base our morals on reality, and there are copious data to demonstrate why rape is morally abhorrent (psychologically, physically, socially, etc), but absolutely none to justify some of the "moral" pronouncements of your God (such as gay sex being an abomination).