MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)

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On pages 429-30 of On The Historicity of Jesus, Carrier identifies 21 points of commonality between the jesus passion story in "mark" and Josephus "Jesus bar Ananus" tale in Book VI of the Jewish War.

And then the other two shitheads copied "mark" and added in their own details.

Because the parallels are too numerous to be at all probable as a coincidence. Some Mark does derive from elsewhere (or matches from elsewhere to a double purpose), but the overall scheme of the story in Josephus matches Mark too closely to believe that Mark just came up with the exact same scheme independently. And since it's not believable that Josephus invented a new story using Mark, we must conclude Mark invented his story using Josephus-or the same tale known to Josephus.

It would appear this story inspired the general outline of Mark's entire Passover Narrative. There are at least twenty significant parallels (and one reversal):

1 Both are named Jesus.
2 Both come to .Jerusalem during a major religious festival.
3 Both entered the temple area to rant against the temple.
4 During which both quote the same chapter of Jeremiah.
5 Both then preach daily in the temple.
6 Both declared 'woe' unto Judea or the Jews.
7 Both predict the temple will be destroyed.
8 Both are for this reason arrested by the Jews.
9 Both are accused of speaking against the temple.
10 Neither makes any defense of himself against the charges.
11 Both are beaten by the Jews.
12 Then both are taken to the Roman governor.
13 Both are interrogated by the Roman governor.
14 During which both are asked to identify themselves.
15 And yet again neither says anything in his defense.
16 Both are then beaten by the Romans.
17 I n both cases the Roman governor decides he should release him.
18 . . . but doesn't (Mark); . . . but does (JW).
19 Both are finally killed by the Romans in Mark, by Mk execution; in the JW, by artillery).
20 Both utter a lament for themselves immediately before they die.
21 Both die with a loud cry.

Table 6. Parallels of Jesus 'Christ ' with Jesus ben Ananias
Given that Mark is essentially a Christian response to the Jewish War and the destruction of the Jewish temple, it is more than a little significant that he chose this Jesus to model his own Jesus after.

Carrier does provide citations for the various passages but because of formatting problems with the e-book I cannot reproduce them here.
Therefore, for any who want to double check:

http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/war-6.htm

" But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, (23) began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city. However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him. Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come. This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.

Anyone who wants to look at the gospel story can find it on their own. That shit is all over the place.