RE: Godhead & theists
July 22, 2010 at 3:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm by Welsh cake.)
(July 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm)Godhead Wrote: I'm not really familiar with the bible. Does it actually say in genesis that god created out of nothing? I've read the first bit (before it gets really hard to understand) but I can't remember anything about god creating from nothing. If it does say it somewhere, which bit is it?^^ There's this book called Genesis. The very first verse in the entire Bible states "1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The word "created" translated back to Hebrew is "bara" which literally expresses creation out of nothing. This word is used throughout the Bible and is only associated with God.
You haven't read your Bible have you? You might actually want to bother reading it sometime if you're here professing belief in a supernatural deity. XD
(July 21, 2010 at 11:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: Neither, God is a supernatural being, not a man, not by any stretch of the imagination. How does matter form itself out of nothing?It doesn't. Read a physics book sometime and you'll stumble upon Empirical laws regarding reality, and under Conservation laws you'll find the Laws of Conservation of Mass & Energy. It states that the mass of a closed isolated system will remain constant over time, as thermodynamics dictates. In other words, mass and energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Godschild Wrote:Do you believe the universe has always existed? What is believable is that an all powerful, all knowing, ever present God created the universe out of nothing. To me believing that the universe has always existed would take a ton of faith far more than I have.All the available evidence points to just that, the universe has always existed naturally in some form or other, free of an intelligent first-cause, just because you can't comprehend that reality is complex and can only manage to conceive of a supernatural magic-man (one who you have a personal relationship/experience with) is utterly irrelevant and my, how ignorantly fallacious you are being today!
Just because we can't yet understand reality in its entirety doesn't make it any less real or demonstrable.
Godschild Wrote:If you are not familiar with the Bible how is it that you can identify yourself with Christ that makes no sense to me. The OT is a fore telling of Christ. The NT is about who He is and why He came to earth. This is basic knowledge for christians.What are you talking about? Christ didn't even fulfil Messianic prophecies! Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah in OT! Worse still, Christianity contradicts Jewish eschatology! That's why the Jews don't regard him as Lord, Son of God, and/or their saviour!