RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 12:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2014 at 12:12 pm by His_Majesty.)
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: It seems that there are always certain believers (H_M appears to be one) who are so insecure in their faith that they require the patina of intellectual respectability as well.
Insecure? I am about as confident in my faith as anything else in life.
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: It's not enough for them to simply believe; they want to convince others that they aren't morons for believing as they do.
I think the idea that inanimate matter can come to life and begin thinking, talking, laughing, having sex, etc...I think that is incoherent, absurd, stupid, nonsensical, moronic, and flat out...dumb.
But hey, you believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want.
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Since they cannot demonstrate the truth of their silly beliefs (despite their posturing to the contrary)
Right, but then again, no one has ever demonstrated how life can come from nonlife and begin thinking, talking, laughing, having sex, etc....that belief is silly, and no one has demonstrated it (despite posturing to the contrary).
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: , their only recourse is to try to drag down other disciplines -- scientific and historical -- to their own wretched level.
Drag down? Not at all...we just find the idea that life coming from nonlife, and intelligence coming from nonintelligence to be stupid, and unscientific...that's all.
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Equivocating the word "faith" is one of the tools in their arsenal. What I've never been able to figure out when it comes to such people is whether they are supremely stupid or cynical.
Well, if you believe that life came from nonlife and began thinking, talking, laughing, and having sex...you cannot scientifically demonstrate it, so you have to accept by faith that it occurred.
We are not equivocating a damn thing...you accept by faith...plain and simple. I understand that you people have the unfortunate idea that the idea of "faith" is just a religious thing...which, itself is nonsense and dishonest approach.
(December 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: However, I've never been in doubt that they are a complete waste of time. I salute those with the patience to deal with this nonsense, if only for the sake of the lurkers, but I lack the stomach for it. Laughter -- and lots of it! -- is my response. After all, that's what clowns are for.
Me and you have had more than a couple exchanges...so you have more patience than you would like to admit.
(December 15, 2014 at 7:11 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I feel ignored by his majesty...
I'd like to talk to you one on one...on a different format, preferably IM.
