RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 4:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: Just remind me... What reason do I have to think the stories in this book are any more real than any other story book? That would be a good start. Also, if the stories even made sense it would be helpful.
A five year old could write a more coherent narrative.
Quick rundown of the corroborating evidence for the NT (there is absolutely none for the OT):
- Tacitus: 2nd century oblique reference to a "Christos" (messiah) revered by Christians who was crucified by Pilate.
- Seutonius: A "Chrestus" disrupted things in Rome circa 50 CE, not likely Jesus considering wrong name, wrong place and wrong time but that doesn't stop the apologists from padding the resume.
- Josephus: A laughable forgery with the TF, a paragraph where he breaks off from what he's talking about to quickly fire off all the beliefs Christians have in bullet point format only to strangely return to the topic he was discussing in the next paragraph.
- Josephus: A brief "Jamesian reference" where he says "Brother of Jesus, James". He later refers to this as Jesus Bar Damneus (son of Damneus), so not our boy.
- Talmud: Jewish writings contain a 4th century reference to A "Jesus" who was accused of sorcery in a 40 day trial. Curiously, there are no earlier references to Jesus in Jewish writings. You'd think he'd be worth a mention.
- Some alleged letters written by alleged Church Fathers which say a wild variety of things about Jesus (my favorite being that he was 50 at the crucifixion, placing his birthdate around 20 BCE.
Did I miss any?
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist