Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..

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Right. When you guys can actually come up with a consistent claim, instead of fighting over whose make believe is more real, we'll happily point to the fact that you still have no evidence.

No amount of ponsy words, logical fallacies, trashing atheists or trashing science is a substitute for evidence or reason. The fact that you all have to resort to such dishonest tactics shows that you got nothing. Be honest and say you believe what you want to believe. That's all there is to it.