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Atheists turning to cult behaviour?
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RE: Atheists turning to cult behaviour?
(December 17, 2014 at 4:59 am)robvalue Wrote: How can you speak out against atheist behaviour? I speak out against any bad behaviour. Pointing out that the person is an atheist is like pointing out they like toast. Their idea of atheism and their own extensions of it may be causing problems, in which case you can point out what these problems are and why they shouldn't be making atheism into something bad.
Yeah. No one can just have "Atheism". Each has extensions. There are scientific atheists, rational atheists but also fascist atheists, racist atheists. But the problem I feel is the generic idea of atheism which everyone claims to identify with is pure non belief. Yet, the extensions are inevitable. Why not append the emptiness of pure atheism into something meaningful?

(December 17, 2014 at 4:59 am)robvalue Wrote: Once again, I agree with the sentiment, but I have no idea how it could be practically put into action. It's simple to blame stuff on religion, and credible, because they do actively worship a book that condones that bad stuff. They refuse to alter the book, or get a new book. They validate that bad stuff.
Yes again! it seems much easier to blame religion. But then again religion might only be an excuse for inhumane behavior, mullahs are probably drunk with idea of power. But when an atheist indulges in bad behavior in the name of freedom, and when others say it's not my problem "I'm just a non believer". How do you deal with that?

I'm clueless too as to what the solution is.

(December 17, 2014 at 4:59 am)robvalue Wrote: But atheism is just... nothing. It's a blank canvas. One atheist's canvas is nothing like, or in any way guided or restricted by, any general template. So how you point out that a crime is "non-religiously motivated" is what I'm having trouble with.
I'm not claiming they are non-religiously motivated. Just that pure atheism, arguably more logical than religion, is however insufficient,

(December 17, 2014 at 4:55 am)ManMachine Wrote: This is explained by human behaviour both adolescent anti-authoritarian behaviour (very normal) and pack behaviour (where the pack follows the behaviour of the charismatic leader, and maintains that behaviour as it's norm even long after the originator of the behaviour has departed/left/died).

MM
Thank you. Pack behavior. That sums it up perfectly.
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Atheists turning to cult behaviour? - by SoFarEast - December 17, 2014 at 3:15 am
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