Atheists turning to cult behaviour?

[Mister Agenda]

Oh my. That is very disturbing People need to grow up.

They need to be sued.

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I did talk to the speaker and by here I meant where I live. But this is problem, none of this has anything to do with what I said.

Good on you for the former, you did what you could. Thanks for clarfying on the latter.

Firstly, I should have refrained from stating where I'm from, or from giving examples of assholes I've encountered.

I think those are the most helpful things you've said.

And secondly, I'm not asking for help on what to do about people online or at these conventions.

You don't have to ask for help in order to be courteous enough to accept it with grace.

Also I don't know why people need a context to my argument, or keep asking me "What I want" or "What I did".

Because those things matter. You can go with vague assertions if you want, but they're absolutely worthless here.

When arguing with theists it seems sufficient to make fairly abstract arguments like paradoxes.

We're not theists, and you're not arguing about something abstract, you're making a concrete claim. Those require evidence if you expect reasonable people to believe them.

Considering how prone statements are to misinterpretation, I'll try to be exact.

Good idea.

- Atheists contend : There are no valid reasons to believe in god. Theism is irrational. A rational person must identify as an atheist.

Sigh. Plenty of atheists don't believe a rational person must identify as an atheist. For instance, most of us regard Neil DeGrasse Tyson as rational, and he does not identify as an atheist. There are rational reasons why someone might not want to identify as an atheist. And I don't think it's irrational to believe what you've been raised to believe your whole life and what everyone you love believes, if you've never had a reasonable chance to gain the mental tools to escape that belief.

- Given atheism is only about disbelief, each atheist identifies or seeks to identify with something else.

Given that it's impossible to both be able to have an opinion and only have one, no seeking is necessary, all atheists and theists necessarily have other opinions besides their opinion about God(s).

- There are good reasons to be humanist.

I agree. That's why I'm a humanist.

Alternately, a society that evolves with humanist principles is superior to a society where everyone acts according to a self defined morality.

Unless they're very good at it.

A rational person must identify as a humanist.

That's not only utter nonsense, but a very non-humanist thing to say.

- An atheist therefore must also identify as a humanist.

The ONLY thing an atheist must do is not believe in God. And that's not because they aren't allowed to believe in God, it's just that if they do, they stop being an atheist in that moment.

Here's what I ask, do you agree with the third point?

I have to go with 'no'.