Atheists turning to cult behaviour?

[SoFarEast]

And secondly, I'm not asking for help on what to do about people online or at these conventions.

You don't have to ask for help in order to be courteous enough to accept it with grace.

I've accepted it gracefully enough.

Also I don't know why people need a context to my argument, or keep asking me "What I want" or "What I did".

Because those things matter. You can go with vague assertions if you want, but they're absolutely worthless here.

I'm not making vague assertions. I'm making a generic claim which I argue applies irrespective of geographic location. So me choosing to keep context (here my nationality) out of it is sensible enough.

When arguing with theists it seems sufficient to make fairly abstract arguments like paradoxes.

We're not theists, and you're not arguing about something abstract, you're making a concrete claim. Those require evidence if you expect reasonable people to believe them.

You mean vague concrete assertions? Doesn't add up.

- Atheists contend : There are no valid reasons to believe in god. Theism is irrational. A rational person must identify as an atheist.

Sigh. Plenty of atheists don't believe a rational person must identify as an atheist. For instance, most of us regard Neil DeGrasse Tyson as rational, and he does not identify as an atheist. There are rational reasons why someone might not want to identify as an atheist. And I don't think it's irrational to believe what you've been raised to believe your whole life and what everyone you love believes, if you've never had a reasonable chance to gain the mental tools to escape that belief.

This is completely irrelevant and total rubbish.

Everyone is born an atheist. Almost everyone comes across various ideas of a god. Once one identifies as an atheist, he has chosen to reject every such idea of god, and sees atheism as a valid stance. A rational person only identifies with what he would consider a valid stance. Any person seeking to identify with a valid stance is also attempting to be rational.

Also, you've bypassed the whole question by trying to separate rationality and mental faculty into two non overlapping sets. Would you deny someone with better mental tools is more rational?

Also, it's of no concern as to what the public consensus is on this Neil dude .

- Given atheism is only about disbelief, each atheist identifies or seeks to identify with something else.

Given that it's impossible to both be able to have an opinion and only have one, no seeking is necessary, all atheists and theists necessarily have other opinions besides their opinion about God(s).

Some actively seek. Are you saying people don't search for an identity?

A rational person must identify as a humanist.

That's not only utter nonsense, but a very non-humanist thing to say.

Who said it's a humanist thing? It's a logical conclusion if point 3 holds up.

- An atheist therefore must also identify as a humanist.

The ONLY thing an atheist must do is not believe in God. And that's not because they aren't allowed to believe in God, it's just that if they do, they stop being an atheist in that moment.

Someone has to count how many times this has been said.

Here's what I ask, do you agree with the third point?

I have to go with 'no'.

Thanks. That's the closest I've got to an answer.

I'm not nitpicking and replying. As for all your other points which I have not responded to, I am in agreement with them