Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"

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I've got no problem with taking responsibility for my views. I think your problem is that you're christophobic. You're views toward christianity are very hateful. Or maybe you don't really hate christians, but you just hate some of their beliefs.

Oh, don't be ridiculous.

I live with two christians. My in-laws are christians. Some of the people I respect most in the world, old friends whom I still talk to today, are christians. I don't hate christians, but I freely admit to hating some of the beliefs that christianity tries its hardest to engender, and I won't be shamed for that. Some ideas are despicable, they deserve to be reviled. I'm sure you're with me, for example, in hating the idea of racism, or slavery.

No doubt you've taken my last statement and are attempting to find some way to spin it to justify your christian views, but you can stop with that right now. How do we determine which ideas are sufficiently negative to be hated? Rational justification is the first step, and it's also the step at which any christian claim fails: you're not going to be able to say that you revile sins like homosexuality in the way I've just described, because the justification for that (god wants it) does not pass even basic tests of rationality until you can demonstrate a god, his opinions, his authority, and the rational justification for those last two as well.

It isn't going to go well for you.

My comment about the union of two dogs has nothing to do with homosexuals. I was just trying to come up with a ridiculous example of what someone might try to define as marriage. If I offended anybody, I'm sorry.

In my home country an actual senator, discussing potential gay marriage laws in an official, parliamentary context, compared homosexuality to bestiality. It's a common dehumanizing point of comparison made by certain conservative groups, so it's got some connotations attached to it. Might be a good idea to steer clear of animal comparisons when discussing this issue.