Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..

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We know you guys desperately want it to be real. And we can't take that away from you. We can't steal your beliefs. But we are outside that fantasy land, in the real world. Your books and crazy claims mean nothing until there is supporting evidence. There is none that even comes close to being credible. So stop asking scientific people to just believe stuff because you believe it.

God is a prick. God is not real. I'm not scared of imaginary fairies. And threatening me with what will happen if your delusions are true, is about the least scary thing I can imagine. Threats are a last resort when you've abandoned all reason.

I feel great sympathy that you minds have been indoctrinated so hard that you must now say anything at all in order to defend them. I really do feel for anyone in that position. All we are hearing is your mind's defences which are not allowing anything to penetrate the false truths that have been forced into your heads, most likely as vulnerable children.

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Even now, your mind is telling you that I'm trying to trick you, I'm doing satans work, and so on.

I get nothing out of getting theists to examine their beliefs, other than the hope that there may be one more person who escapes the evil jail of religion. All we want you to do is think.