Is Jesus the son of God?

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There is no indication that Josephus wrote any part of the Testimonium Flavianum nor that it existed in any form prior to Eusebius suddenly trotting it out in the 4th century...which is exactly what I spoke of when I spoke of xtian forgery. The short christ reference is probably a more innocent interpolation.

This is not evidence.

1. You are attempting a persuasive argument, which amounts to nothing but yet another argument from silence.

2. You are also using speculation which is impoverished for evidence for support. For example, can you provide any evidence for Eusebius creating a forgery, and can you provide any evidence that the short reference to Christ is an interpolation?

"Paul" was unknown as late as the writings of Justin c 160 AD.

Not true:

Clement of Alexandria, The Epistle of S. Clement to the Corinthians, Chapter 5 (AD 94,95)

"Let us set before our eyes the good Apostles. ...By reason of jealousy and strife Paul by his example pointed out the prize of patient endurance. After that he had been seven times in bonds, had been driven into exile, had been stoned, had preached in the East and West, we won the noble renown which was the reward of his faith, having taught righteousness unto the whole world and having reached the farthest bounds of the West; and when he had borne his testimony before the rulers, so he departed from the world and went unto the holy place, having been found a notable pattern of patient endurance."

Ignatius of Antioch, To the Romans, Chapter 4 (August 23, 97 AD)

"I do not enjoin you as Peter and Paul did. They were Apostles, I am a convict; they were free, but I am a slave to this very hour."

Polycarp, Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians, Chapter 3

"For neither am I, nor is any other like unto me, able to follow the wisdom of the blessed and glorious Paul, who when he came among you taught face to face with the men of that day the word which concerneth truly carefully and surely; who also, when he was absent, wrote a letter unto you, into the which if ye look diligently, ye shall be able to be builded up unto the faith given to you, which is the mother of us all, while hope followeth after and love goeth before--love toward God and Christ and toward our neighbor. For if any man be occupied with these, he hath fulfilled the commandment of righteousness; for he that hath love is far from all sin."

I think that throws your information regarding Paul into serious dispute?

Before I waste more of my time on you, use the search feature newbie and find out how many times this bullshit of yours has been dismissed.

My position on all this has never been dismissed anywhere, at any time, by anyone.

And on the contrary, I think I just dismissed your arguments right here, so you will not require to search anywhere else for answers. I gave you the answers.

Don't bother with Pliny and Tacitus and Suetonius and Mara Bar Serapion and Lucian of Samosata or Celsus. We've all been down that road ad nauseam. It never gets any better and you people all have the same sorry act.

I do not need them.

Your arguments here are not actually arguments, and as demonstrated, not true.

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Josephus from AD 93 has two entries, one of which has likely been altered by a Christian scribe (but never proven) and the other indisputable.

Josephus...

Face palming does absolutely nothing to dismiss it as evidence. You can't just hand wave this stuff away. That simply doesn't work.

Before the bible became an actual book, you have all the letters of Paul from the early to mid 1st century. He was a Jew.

And never claimed to have met a living flesh and blood Jesus.

That says nothing to the point of Paul's letters being 1st century texts. It's completely irrelevant.

These are just a couple examples that dispute that claim of yours. There are a few more.

Try and find one we've never heard of before.

We'll get around to that.