RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 20, 2014 at 7:09 am
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Due to limited time, I'm just going to address the babbling nonsense of the Trinity for now and get to the mental gymnastics you performed to try to reconcile all the different resurrection accounts later.
Go ahead, that just mean you will fail twice as bad.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: So, is there one god or are there three?
One God...three individuals.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: You can't have it both ways. Either Christianity is monotheistic or it's polytheistic.
It would only be polytheistic if the Trinity represented three different Gods..but since they are the same God, that make it monotheistic.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: If Jesus is a "separate being" from his father god then he's not the same being, by definition. This makes him a god separate from his father, his father being a greater god perhaps but a separate god.
Who said they are the same being?? See, that is a misrepresentation of the Trinity and it happens time and time again, no matter how much what you (in general) say, no matter how much you say for the record, somehow, the person that doesn't understand the concept manages to still chop it up.
The Father: Creator, Four Omni's, Supernatural, Eternal
The Son: Creator, Four Omni's, Supernatural, Eternal
The Holy Spirit: Creator, Four Omni's, Supernatural, Eternal
Every single attribute of one, the other two also has...they are of the same essence...the same nature...the same Deity.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: If they have different "ranks" and "roles", they are separate beings and so different gods. One is a lesser god and the other a greater god. So Christianity is polytheistic.
Rank and roles doesn't have anything to do with nature...again, if the Father came on earth as a human and wanted to play on an organized basketball team as a player, he would still be subjected to the coach and rules of the team, and the game itself...his position would be lowered relative to the coach, but he is still God, isn't he?
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: If, on the other hand, they are the same god, they can't have separate wills and one can't be subordinate to the other.
They don't have separate will's. The human side of Jesus did not want to go through what was about to come, which is like if I see a busty woman walking down the street, the flesh side of me want to go after her, but the spiritual side of me wants to fight the good fight against sexual temptation.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: They'd be the same person. It's like you lording over yourself. So Jesus doesn't just talk to himself, he tells himself to do things he doesn't want to do.
He wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to the Father, who is the first person of the Trinity.
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Can there be a better qualification of a particularly dangerous form of insanity? So he's a crazy god then?
Think so?
(December 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: So if Jesus doesn't know what his father knows, he's a separate being and thus a lesser god. If he's part of the same being, he'd share the same body of knowledge.
How about addressing the scripture that I gave you, the one that you quoted yet ignored just to spew the same crap you've been spewing?
