MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)

[DeistPaladin]

Odin, Thor, and Loki are three separate God's..they don't share the same power, knowledge, benevolence, will, etc.

Neither does Jesus with his father.

But the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share the same power, knowledge, benevolence, and will

No, they don't. See my scripture quotations from an earlier post.

..all three are of the same essence...the one definition that defines one also defines the others...it is based on that ONE definition which applies to all three that makes them ONE God

No, it doesn't.

My wife and I have much in common. The fact that we share many similar personality features, as well as biological features since we're both human beings, doesn't mean we're the same person.

"God" is a title that applies to all three beings.

So "God" is a title? Like "president" or "prime minister"?

Or is "God" an essence?

Or is "God" a head?

These goalposts are moving so fast, I can't keep up.

[*]Is God able to prevent evil but not willing? Then he is not omnibenevolent.

Again, God may have morally sufficient reasons for allowing evil. Non sequitur.

The five year old little girl who's being raped right now, who is about to be killed by the monster attacking her, will be relieved that there's a "good reason" for all this happening. So will the grieving family.

The village being flooded by a tsunami, with infants being drowned in their cribs and mothers having their babies torn from their arms by the force of the waters, will all be relieved to know it happens for "a good reason".

Your god watched from Heaven as Christian leaders through history have committed unspeakable crimes, torturing and murdering in their crusades, inquisitions and witch burnings, all in his name and he did nothing to stop it. I'm sure there was a "good reason".

Do tell. Let's hear these "good reasons". Your god is on trial.

No, you tell me.

The video is just a few minutes long. Summon the energy to click on the screen and watch it.

I've already responded to that.

True but while all answers are "responses", not all responses are "answers".

You've utterly failed to answer my objections.

Yeah, but all we need is for ONE deity to be powerful than either one of them, and that would separate one god from the other..we don't have that with the Biblical Trinity.

Yes, we do. Jesus makes it clear his father is greater than him.

John 14:28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

If you seriously want to offer a defeater of the concept, you have to do better than this. The doctrine is what it is, you don't believe it, you don't accept....that is on you...but it is what it is. You can just continue to deny the doctrine just like you deny the religious altogether...it is a package-deal, ya know.

The burden of proof is not on me. You haven't even coherently explained the Trinity much less offered any reason to believe it.

Actually, you can...I can certainly conceive the notion of me and two other people sharing the same knowledge, power, benevolence, and presence. It really isn't that difficult to conceive, and no one has given me any reason why such a concept is logically unsound.

That would make you three separate gods.

Shared traits do not mean you are the same being.

I think it is, you think it isn't *shrugs*

Science isn't a matter of opinion.

Did science explain the origins of consciousness yet?

No but we do know that the brain is involved. Hormones have no brain. They don't act in any way that indicates conscious will. There is no reason to think they are people.