RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 21, 2014 at 6:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2014 at 6:41 pm by Free.)
(December 21, 2014 at 6:17 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(December 21, 2014 at 4:24 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Again, the Trinity doctrine is not a concept of the three sharing the same "being".Fine, if we agree these are different beings, then you agree that you are a polytheist.
Three divine beings = three gods = polytheism.
(December 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: It is a title which represents who he is ...
I've argued with many apologists and you are so far the only one who refers to "God" as a title. The dictionary itself is unaware of your unique definition of the term.
Even allowing for your redefinition, you lose. You've redefined "God" to mean "your pantheon". Your pantheon contains three separate beings. These beings have all the features we associate with gods (immortal, powerful, etc.) and they "share a divine nature" according to you. This makes them gods. Your pantheon has three gods.
You're a polytheist, like it or not.
Try as you might, you can't make 3 = 1.
Quote:and it [the term God] can sometimes be used synonymously as a name for the "Father".
So he IS the same being as his father? If he assumes the same name he is either masquarading as his father (a liar) or he is the one and the same with his father (same being).
Quote: But either way, I am through with you on this subject.
Hey, don't blame me because your philosophy is incoherent causing you frustration when I won't accept your vapid nonsense "three persons in one god" attempt at an answer.
(December 21, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Brucer Wrote: Yes, I have seen that video, and yes he is promoting Earl Doherty's position.
Fine. Then demolish it if the case is so flimsy as you seem to think.
Dismissing it with a hand waving gesture is a vapid ad hominem.
Hey, you are making the positive claim that whatever is in this video somehow reflects the truth. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to dissect this video, point by point, and put it in a post on this forum and I will show you what's wrong with it.
If you think I am going to do the work for you by stripping apart this video, good luck with that.
You presented it as evidence, so now you can prove the truth of it, if any truth exists.
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(December 21, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Strider Wrote:(December 21, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Brucer Wrote: Again, am I not capable of reading their posts? I am not speaking of bias in general, but specifically anti-Christian bias.Christianity certainly takes the most flack around here, but is that really surprising?
I am glad you agree. Thank you for your intellectual honesty on this point.
Quote: I don't think it's fair to paint in such broad strokes and say that the entire board his an anti-Christian bias though. Yeah, it is discussed the most, but that's only because it is the religion that affects the vast majority of us the most.
This was pointed out to me earlier, and i agreed and apologized.
Quote:And to be honest, many individuals are biased against your religion for very valid reasons. Christianity has infiltrated the political arena and now forms the basis for efforts to shape and enact laws. I have no issue with Christianity in and of itself. Believe whatever you want to believe. It's cool with me even if I don't agree with it. Hell, I'll even drink a beer with you. The problem comes when people start using Christianity to impose their beliefs on me and the society I am a part of.
I understand this. Whenever the JWs come to the door, I play the atheist card just so they will fuck off and leave me alone.
Atheism DOES have its benefits!
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