RE: Is free will real?
December 24, 2014 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2014 at 4:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 24, 2014 at 2:21 pm)bennyboy Wrote:Is there any other way?(December 24, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You and I don't see things the same way either. I think that this is an enormous and unjustifiable burden for an object to be considered "real". I'm content with our experiences being about the "actual physical reality of the car", that they are not snapshots of that "actual physical reality" probably has something to do with human beings not being cameras.Okay, so each of us experiences differently than each other
Quote:, and neither of us experiences the universe as it really is (i.e. as a bunch of QM particles or maybe something even more subtle but as yet undiscovered). So where do we get off even talking about what is "real" and what isn't? By what criteria do we really establish the reality of something?:kicks a rock:
Now you try. Next we'll take some pictures of the rock. We'll chip bits off and put them in a lab. Maybe..lets see what happens the the "rock" heaped up with explosives. This doesn't seem to be very difficult. In short, precisely as we already do.
(we may or may not be experiencing something "as-is", sort of a case by case basis, eh? In the case of "free will" though, I'd have to say that we aren't.)
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