RE: Is free will real?
December 26, 2014 at 9:13 am
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2014 at 9:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Here here!. Fine detail (while fantastic for leisurely viewing) may not be as useful as we think. Economy of data is going to give us diminishing returns for increasing levels of detail - in principle. I have to add something continuing on the last post. Try the language of "imbuing" something with mites or germs. We can't see them either (with the naked eye). Does that mean that we are imbuing the air with "no mites, no germs"? Does that have some effect that we could point to? If I look through a microscope...am I them imbuing the air "with mites and germs"? How about an effect for that?
(obviously, I think this "imbuing" business is a deepity - but I'm open to the notion. I also think that our thoughts have an effect -on something-....just not on the status of the arrangement of particles in a tabletop and how we might observe a spatial relationship. Perhaps if we had a finer level of granularity we would describe the table some other way, use a different word or even concept to describe it - but we would still be able to observe the arrangement that we now call "flat". Our thoughts and ideas seem to be able to change our thoughts and ideas, perhaps they can change what observations we recognize (even if they don;t make our eyes "stop seeing" some specific thing)....but in none of that, it seems, is the table itself changed......)
(obviously, I think this "imbuing" business is a deepity - but I'm open to the notion. I also think that our thoughts have an effect -on something-....just not on the status of the arrangement of particles in a tabletop and how we might observe a spatial relationship. Perhaps if we had a finer level of granularity we would describe the table some other way, use a different word or even concept to describe it - but we would still be able to observe the arrangement that we now call "flat". Our thoughts and ideas seem to be able to change our thoughts and ideas, perhaps they can change what observations we recognize (even if they don;t make our eyes "stop seeing" some specific thing)....but in none of that, it seems, is the table itself changed......)
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