RE: If Only The Romans
December 27, 2014 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2014 at 4:05 pm by Mudhammam.)
(December 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: [quote='Pickup_shonuff' pid='829390' dateline='1419653242']That's very noble and all, but you're simply promoting the installation of a different authoritarian power. And obviously you cannot do so with any concern for human liberty. The "members of a rural Christian congregation in eastern China welded pieces of metal into a cross and hoisted it onto the top of a worship hall," as in, they didn't harm anybody or try to suppress others' rights as you're suggesting theirs should be.
When last I checked we are in the midst of our own struggle to keep those same xtian fuckwits from turning our country into a mindless theocracy. If you are asking me if I resent the Chinese looking to prevent that sort of a cancer from spreading the answer would be 'no.' Religion is about earthly power....not 'beliefs.'
(December 27, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Chuck Wrote: Their human right record is 800 million people given real choices in life where as they would otherwise have been bound to crawl miserably through life hand to mouth along a grinding and often short trajectory fixed to not very fertile dirt since the late Iron Age.Ha, please. A bunch of flowery, irrelevant, words strung together to basically say: I'm happy to trust an autocrat to tell me how to live my life. Well, I agree with Bertrand Russell: "I think all the great religions of the world---Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, and Communism---both untrue and harmful."
That trumps a billion votes not cast, or a billion mouth not allowed to say some of the things that might have come to their mind.
That is vastly more to real human rights than what we feel would entice other people to think in a way we would find comfortingly confirmatory of our own, not all together sincerely held, political philosophical views.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza