RE: Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God
December 29, 2014 at 7:38 am
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2014 at 7:54 am by robvalue.)
No, my position is that you are not using what is generally described as logic. You are committing logical fallacies in all your arguments, your logic is not sound.
You are using "argument from ignorance" (I believe my conclusion until it is proved wrong) and non-sequiturs (jumping from one step to another that in no way logically follows).
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to clear up confusion. I don't see any coherent logic in your arguments. If there is some, you have not explained it properly, in my opinion.
The motivation behind using logical fallacies willingly is usually an emotional desire for the conclusion to be true, whether it is or not. Everyone is guilty of it from time to time.
You have said that it is "up to you" whether you accept the God claim. That is saying that it's equally valid to come to either conclusion. One of the conclusions is wrong, so this statement makes no sense. Also, saying they are equally valid is totally untrue. Two possibilities does not imply a 50/50 split. Even if it was a 50/50 split, it is not logical to just ”choose one". It's logical to say it's equally likely both ways.
[edited out not so great example]
This is just my evaluation, I am in no way declaring this definitive.
You are using "argument from ignorance" (I believe my conclusion until it is proved wrong) and non-sequiturs (jumping from one step to another that in no way logically follows).
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to clear up confusion. I don't see any coherent logic in your arguments. If there is some, you have not explained it properly, in my opinion.
The motivation behind using logical fallacies willingly is usually an emotional desire for the conclusion to be true, whether it is or not. Everyone is guilty of it from time to time.
You have said that it is "up to you" whether you accept the God claim. That is saying that it's equally valid to come to either conclusion. One of the conclusions is wrong, so this statement makes no sense. Also, saying they are equally valid is totally untrue. Two possibilities does not imply a 50/50 split. Even if it was a 50/50 split, it is not logical to just ”choose one". It's logical to say it's equally likely both ways.
[edited out not so great example]
This is just my evaluation, I am in no way declaring this definitive.
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