Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God

[robvalue]

OK, well I tried again, but I'll resign for now. I'll continue to keep an eye on things, but I see no logical chain of arguments leading from reality to a god actually existing (not possibly existing, I already admit it's possible).

To admit someone using a scientific approach would come to the conclusion you are wrong, is to admit that you are not being scientific. It's not logical to be unscientific if you are interested in actual truth.

This is not surprising and not an attack at you Frodo, I've never seen a single logical argument even coming close to demonstrating a god, unless the god is defined in such a way as to obviously exist anyway (a sun or something). I've not even been convinced by deistic arguments, let alone the "my god" non sequiter that follows.

Bottom line is, using science and logic, you cannot demonstrate that anything supernatural exists. And you cannot prove that anything supernatural has caused an event in reality, even if they do exist. I'm afraid that's the cold hard truth of science, and to abandon that is to abandon the scientific method. It's not my dogma, it's the only model which has reliably been shown to produce truth.

I'm not telling you what to believe, I'm not even telling you that you should think you're not being logical. I understand that you believe you're being logical. I am just giving my opinion on why I think you are not.