RE: If Only The Romans
December 29, 2014 at 9:30 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2014 at 9:30 pm by Lek.)
(December 29, 2014 at 8:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Which was why you brought up the dictators at all, right. Your entire point disappears if you weren't trying to intimate that atheist leaders were more likely to be immoral by default, so don't try to backpedal now.
I brought up those dictators because people were making generalizations concerning governments led by christians. So to make a point I brought up some terrible atheist dictators. Honestly, I had not researched modern atheist heads of state and when the list was brought to my attention I agreed that there can be good atheist leaders. And the same goes for christian leaders.
Quote:But that's not true, or else "true" christianity would require you to ignore any bad thing that was ever said in the new testament. Jesus was all for slavery, and following his example would lead one to ignore all pleas for help from those not of the tribe of Israel (who were like dogs, in Jesus' own words), so are you for those things? Or is "true" christianity about following Jesus except where Jesus did and said immoral things, in which case aren't you just using your own morality and then giving the credit to the book you're having to outright ignore, just to call it good?
Why do you think Jesus was speaking specifically about Gentiles here? I'd say the dogs he was talking about wasting what is holy on were insincere people who had no interest in holy things; people who were trying to bring the disciples down. Having said that, his plan was to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles. Before returning to heaven he commissioned his apostles to carry the message to the Gentiles.