(December 29, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Lek Wrote: I brought up those dictators because people were making generalizations concerning governments led by christians. So to make a point I brought up some terrible atheist dictators. Honestly, I had not researched modern atheist heads of state and when the list was brought to my attention I agreed that there can be good atheist leaders. And the same goes for christian leaders.
Two wrongs don't make a right...

Quote:Why do you think Jesus was speaking specifically about Gentiles here? I'd say the dogs he was talking about wasting what is holy on were insincere people who had no interest in holy things; people who were trying to bring the disciples down.
Except that he was specifically discussing a believer from another tribe who had come to him in search of a miracle: that's hardly someone coming to bring the disciples down. In fact, the woman specifically calls out to him as "Lord," capitalized and all. Jesus' response is that he hadn't been sent for anyone but the "lost sheep of the house of Israel." The reason he refused to help her, the basis for his calling her a dog, wasn't that she was being unfaithful or malicious, but that she wasn't of the correct race. She was a Canaanite, there in supplication to Jesus, on behalf of another person; her actions were entirely unselfish and based in love, and yet she was rejected. Your excuse here is simply inapplicable.
Quote: Having said that, his plan was to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles. Before returning to heaven he commissioned his apostles to carry the message to the Gentiles.
You can carry a message to people you don't intend to save. You can't extrapolate a whole plan from what might be the first step, but only if you already believe that the plan was there.
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