RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
January 2, 2015 at 4:50 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2015 at 5:02 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
(January 2, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The word 'feminism' has an inherent weakness that implies female centered.
My thoughts exactly. Summed up much more concisely than I managed.
(January 2, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Blackout Wrote: so are you saying that you adopt positions depending on the word used to describe them?It's female centred because it's meant to fight gender inequality, but that doesn't dismiss the fact feminists care about men's issues, and gays, trans, people of all races, animals and so on - That's the so called intersectional feminism, that deals with other subjects as well. I think the word has it's roots back in the XX and late XIX century, and they just kept the word as it was back then - But it's not the word that matters, rather the ideology.
As someone who shares his stance (I think), I have to say, you are too quick to take a dismissive tone towards terminology defining stances; after all, that is kind of the point. And me, personally, I use words to describe the positions I take. What a novel concept, right?
It was called feminism because it meant to fight gender inequality, and actually, by the name itself, it is dismissive of men's issues and any other issues. By definition, it is about women first, and only women. It is not femitransgenderandronism, it is feminism. FEM. Inism. Femme. Female-ism.
There IS a distinction nowadays between feminism and egalitarianism, whether you like it or not, whether you wanna admit it or not. There is a reason why such differentiation is becoming a thing. It's not because it's trendy or hip or cool; we didn't become atheists because of those things, we didn't adopt the term because it sounds cool; we became atheists, and we take the term of atheists, because that is what we are. Feminism and egalitarianism are not the same thing, and those who are for actual gender equality are shifting their stance accordingly, because feminism is no longer about gender equality, and by its very name, it never was to begin with. Feminism was necessary and useful in bringing awareness to the issues in question, but now with the awareness achieved, we need to work towards making things equal, and it's not just women who are being discriminated against, and there's no reason nowadays to prioritize women over anyone else; man, woman, transgenderal/transsexual, gender-neutral, all should be equal, and it should no longer be a focus upon just one group when we are now all being made aware of inequalities across ALL regions of the issue.
