RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
January 2, 2015 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2015 at 7:34 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
Blackout Wrote:Not only men, rape culture is aimed at women who trivialize rape as well, let's not forget that. Regardless of that, your personal experience tells me nothing about it. First of all, rape culture is about men and women, given that male rape victims are mocked and laughed at, which is a shameful and disgusting social reaction. Second, rape culture is about subconscious or indirect messages that trivialize rape, not only about people explicitly saying "I'm against rape" - For instance, why do some news make it very important about describing how the victim was dressed, or how much she drank? Why are rape jokes so popular when they can actually hurt people who've been sexually assaulted? Why is rape thrown vulgarly in series like GOT as an entertainment strategy and not as something awful that leads to character development? Why do most rapists not get reported, and when they do, most are not sentenced? Why do myths about rape or misconceptions - Like the ones that tells us rape happen outside of home when in fact most sexual assault acts happen in a relationship, in a place where the victim once felt safe and with someone they trusted - Still exist? You want a personal example too? I'll tell you this one - Once a 14 year old got raped in my country, I checked out a news website and the comment box was full of people saying "what was she thinking it'd happen when she drank that much" or "why did she wear that and expected to not be assaulted" or "why do you complain when it's your fault and you could have prevented it"
Again where are your numbers? What has happened with rape convictions in the last 20 years? Do those numbers and trends justify tarring large swathes of the population with the accusation of at least silently supporting rape?
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Quote:That's terribly unfair and the claim that someone is a rapist for being a man is completely irrational, however how many feminists really claim that and how representative are they of the feminist movement?
I think we're talking past each other, in the sense that I have no problem with the views held by most feminists, which as I noted earlier are laudable in their thrust. It's only the radicals that irk me -- those who make a cottage industry of bashing anyone who doesn't accept their claims lock, stock, and barrel.
I like the term egalitarian as used above, and though I've never considered it as a descriptor for myself, I think I will start using it ... it describes my views succinctly and without baggage.