RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
January 3, 2015 at 3:02 pm
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2015 at 3:24 pm by Drich.)
(January 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm)IATIA Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 3:48 am)Drich Wrote: indeed lucifer wanted what God had over and above what God gave him.So then, if one were to succumb to the christian philosophy and end up in heaven, it is possible that it is not where cares to spend eternity.
I'm not sure what you are asking
(January 3, 2015 at 2:40 pm)dyresand Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm)IATIA Wrote: So then, if one were to succumb to the christian philosophy and end up in heaven, it is possible that it is not where cares to spend eternity.
And what if the devil won the final battle? wouldn't that mean satan well lucifer be the new god and should we or should we not fear him.
In essence satan does have limited control over this world, you tell me. you all the first people to speak of the persecution, famine, death and disease. Where do you think that comes from?
(January 3, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Nope Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm)IATIA Wrote: So then, if one were to succumb to the christian philosophy and end up in heaven, it is possible that it is not where cares to spend eternity.
Judging by Satan's example, those in heaven can still rebel against god so Drich might get to heaven and still hate it or god. Drich could lead a rebellion and be thrown into hell with the rest of us heathen.
That is what the book of revelation tells us will happen after the first 1000 years.
Revelation 20 speaks of this in greater detail
(January 3, 2015 at 2:44 pm)IATIA Wrote: That was one of the first things I questioned as a child. If heaven is so great, why did Lucifer rebel?
He wanted to be God, he was not happy serving God. He wanted to be served.
(January 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm)Nope Wrote:Quote:i was just covering my bases. (Just incase you were plagiarizing your thoughts rather than quoting them like everyone else.)
I probably should let this go but why would you think that I plagiarized someone and who is the someone that I might be plagiarizing?
I didn't say you were. I simply said I was covering bases.
(January 3, 2015 at 2:49 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 2:44 pm)IATIA Wrote: That was one of the first things I questioned as a child. If heaven is so great, why did Lucifer rebel?
Especially considering that Lucifer is supposed to be a very powerful, knowledgeable being that would know that God is even more powerful and knowledgeable. Lucifer would know ahead of time what the outcome of his rebellion would be.
Maybe, lucifer "reasoned/logic-ed" out a more favorable outcome.
Look at drys-dale's last post, he reasoned out a favorable outcome.
