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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: 1 - Just because the law says so, it doesn't mean in happens like it says on the law

Okay, then name some areas where women are disenfranchised in the western world instead of just saying sometimes bad shit happens. Bad shit happens to every race, gender and creed, so what the fuck is your point when it comes to the western world. Then conversely, name some areas where men are oppressed and that just because the law says so doesn't mean that their rights are upheld as much as women, especially when it comes to criminal offenses where it's been prove that women will get less time for similar crimes than men.

(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: 2 - Men don't suffer oppression and if you think you're being oppressed when we hold the majority of public office, CEO's jobs, media outlets and means of production then you've just created a new definition of oppressed, give me a break...

Men don't suffer oppression? you're brainwashed, sorry. And I thought we got along at one point but until you resend this stupid comment, I no longer take you seriously on this topic. There is no oppression on women from getting CEO jobs, they are less driven to get to that point, there are plenty of studies on that indicate that. For the most part, men have traditionally been the ones aspiring for the highest careers and taking less time off from work. If you look at the statistics and you include things like paternity leave and what careers the genders tend to choose, it shows why there is this wage gap. It's only recently that women have been aspiring for higher positions, and it has everything to do with 1st wave feminism and nothing to do with 3rd wave whiny bullshit.

(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: That becomes completely irrelevant since it's based on the sexist assumption that women are meant to be child bearers and raisers - In case you don't know (probably don't) rational feminists are against gender biases in court.

So you're going to just deny the fact that women have a leg up in those areas of alimony and child support and child custody (which are things they usually want) and chalk it up to a disadvantage? you really are a brainwashed feminazi and/or white knight. Also, you are admitting that the male can be the better parent, so why not fight against the women getting alimony and child support and child custody more often than men? oh, right, feminists enjoy advantages while claiming they are a bad thing, gotcha.

(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: Not to mention it's completely idiotic to claim women are benefited when problems like slut-shaming, higher probability of suffering sexual assault and other problems are much more damaging and important than simply being granted child custody.

So stud-shaming doesn't exist? just like male oppression doesn't exist? I swear feminists are so blithely hypocritical and dogmatic in your assertions of oppression in the western world. Higher probability of sexual assault? uh no, it's about the same..And yes I am including prison sexual assault since men are statistically more likely to go to jail than woman are and more likely to get assaulted in prison than women. Oh look, another area where women are favored over men, but I guess you'll again chalk that up to society thinking women are too weak to do crime or some other stupid shit.

(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: And why is that a good thing? Some might argue raising kids sucks and it's hardworking, some might even say it's a benefit for men.

Why is alimony and child support a benefit for men?....(sigh)

Ask the women who get it, they get to live off the men's paychecks scott free and can even take their house and half their shit. But you're going to complain about how getting the custody and free money is somehow not a benefit, shut the fuck up.

(January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Blackout Wrote: And you must be one of those young male that believes in the conspiracy theory that feminism is ruining your life and that women want to impose a new world order. Speaking about tumblr as if that was feminist literature is completely idiotic. And have you actually read any significant work of literature or study done by feminist authors on the matter?

Oh look, a feminist reducing someone down to their gender like that fucking matters if feminism was truly about gender equality (when it's not, it's about female supremacy) just like a true sexist would do. I wouldn't reduce a woman down to the sum of her reproductive parts like you would with me. Nice straw man there after that as well, when did I say or imply Feminism was ruining my life? that's just an ignorant assumption from a white knight who can't think critically about this issue. If you had any intellectual capacity whatsoever, you'd recognize that Egalitarianism is the only real label for gender equality, not focusing in on one fucking gender in a part of the world where they are equal.

If you really think women aren't equal yet in the western world, you haven't been paying attention very closely or are trying to get in the pants of some feminist you like perhaps. Also, how did this rambling of yours prove where is this campaign for actually oppressed women instead of these whiny 1st world problem hipster feminists? and how well is it doing for those women over there?
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community? - by MJ the Skeptical - January 4, 2015 at 6:04 am
SPEEDBUMP - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2015 at 9:42 am

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